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  The Motive of the Governing Body

  by jwfacts in

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  i have been quiet of late, developing other interests, happy that there are a whole group of people producing great resources.

  however, i found some old emails from ray franz that promoted me to write an article that answers a question i regularly receive.

  it is in regards to the motive of governing body members.

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  Lost in the fog

  Several years ago I had some work to do at a hospital which included being on two wards for the mentally ill. We were not to engage with the patients but get on with the job assignment.

  I observed several people who genuinely believed that God or a higher authority was talking directly to them. Several of them were genuinely polite people, who except for their medical diagnosis of either psychosis or schizophrenia or both, looked and spoke like a 'normal' person.

  It was later on the thought occurred to me that if you are part of a religion and believe you are God's channel and He speaks directly to you nobody bats an eyelid. Whereas if you are in the wider community and go around telling others the same thing you will likely end up being treated in a hospital ward for the insane for a very long time!
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  Aysha King's Mother and the JWs.

  by Lost in the fog in

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  i apologise if this has already been posted.

  i have been dealing with family issues and haven't been following every post for a couple of weeks.

  do you remember about 6 years ago that kid in the uk whose jw parents took him out of a hospital for proton beam treatment for his cancer and ended up as the subject of an interpol police search?

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  Lost in the fog

  I apologise if this has already been posted. I have been dealing with family issues and haven't been following every post for a couple of weeks.

  Do you remember about 6 years ago that kid in the UK whose JW parents took him out of a hospital for proton beam treatment for his cancer and ended up as the subject of an interpol police search?

  Well apparently the mother has split from the father and the family, and she is living in Spain where she is writing articles attacking the whole JW beliefs and worldview. Although I am not sure what she is talking about with regards to her belief that the WT organisation owes her several tens of thousands of pounds.

  EXCLUSIVE: This is NOT Armageddon, insists mother of young cancer hero Ashya King as she seeks sanctuary in Spain.

  https://www.theolivepress.es/spain-news/2020/05/02/exclusive-this-is-not-armageddon-insists-mother-of-young-cancer-hero-ashya-king-as-she-seeks-sanctuary-in-spain-from-clutches-of-jehovahs-witnesses
  
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  Alert: Following blindly jw.org these day / RISK

  by Gorbatchov in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  this night i could not sleep and my thoughts went on and on.

  the result:.

  i observe that many jw family members follow the instructions of the elders at zoom meetings like they come directly from god.

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  Lost in the fog

  When they sign in to their website they have to ✔️ a box which asks "Are you a robot?"
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  People Are Drinking a Lot More When "Locked Up" in Their Homes

  by RubaDub in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  it was amusing the other evening on the local news to see the increase of drinking due likely to people having to basically stay at home.. the news crew went out on recycle day in a couple of areas during the week.

  they showed the general neighborhoods (but not the specific houses).

  the reporter walked down the street and looked into the recycle bins.

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  Lost in the fog

  Most grocery stores here in the UK sell booze, from cheap cider to hard liquor. To be honest it's easier to buy the hard stuff because it gets you where you want to go quicker. As long as you can afford it of course.
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  Does prophesy negate free will?

  by Tim207 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  not sure if this is in the right subject but here it goes.

  i’ve asked this question to a few elders and bethelites but they don’t seem to understand or like the question.

  to start off we have to agree that jehovah is all powerful.

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  Lost in the fog

  W06 6/1 24-25.

  Jehovah Tells “From the Beginning the Finale”

  The Watchtower Announcing Jehovah’s Kingdom—2006

  17. Why can we say that Jehovah’s exercise of foreknowledge is selective?
  

  17 Jehovah apparently chose not to foresee what Adam​—and Eve—​would do, even though He has the ability to know everything in advance. It is therefore a question, not of whether Jehovah can foresee the future, but of whether he chooses to do so. Furthermore, we can reason that Jehovah, being a God of love, would not knowingly and cruelly predetermine that rebellion​—with all its sad consequences—​should take place. (Matthew 7:11; 1 John 4:8) Thus, as far as Jehovah’s exercise of foreknowledge is concerned, it is selective.

  A bit like having a selective memory if questioned by the police I suppose.... 😉
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  Find the Beatles Songs in the Picture

  by Simon in

  1. social
  2. entertainment

  some light entertainment ... there are apparently 39 beatles songs hidden in the picture, but depending on how to interpret some of them you may come up with more.. please post one each, to give everyone a go, and describe where the song is in the picture (so it's not just coming up with a list of beatles songs).

  also, check for existing answers - i'll post summaries to show the ones already identified.. .

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  Lost in the fog

  I know I have posted already, but I showed it to a friend who said that the men at work had to be Dig It from their Let It Be album.

  Since I wouldn't have got that and he did - this post is for him, if that's OK.
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  Does prophesy negate free will?

  by Tim207 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  not sure if this is in the right subject but here it goes.

  i’ve asked this question to a few elders and bethelites but they don’t seem to understand or like the question.

  to start off we have to agree that jehovah is all powerful.

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  Lost in the fog

  I remember we were discussing predestination at the KH once, and an older elder produced a WT which said that Jehovah has the ability of foreknowledge but - wait for it - He can choose not to use it.

  So somehow Jehovah blanks out his super ability to know the outcome of each person's actions.

  I didn't get it then, and I definitely don't get it now. Usual WT gobbledegook when they want to appear intelligent but don't know the answer either.
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  Another One Bites The Dust.

  by Lost in the fog in

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  2. current

  from a kingdom hall to a new day care center.

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  https://www.kamloopsthisweek.com/news/from-a-kingdom-hall-to-a-new-day-care-1.24117155.

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  From a Kingdom Hall to a new day care center.

  https://www.kamloopsthisweek.com/news/from-a-kingdom-hall-to-a-new-day-care-1.24117155
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  Find the Beatles Songs in the Picture

  by Simon in

  1. social
  2. entertainment

  some light entertainment ... there are apparently 39 beatles songs hidden in the picture, but depending on how to interpret some of them you may come up with more.. please post one each, to give everyone a go, and describe where the song is in the picture (so it's not just coming up with a list of beatles songs).

  also, check for existing answers - i'll post summaries to show the ones already identified.. .

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  Lost in the fog

  Norwegian Wood.

  Top Middle.
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  WT study April 5 - how uplifting! How happifying! How encouraging!

  by sir82 in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  for you poor saps unfortunate enough to have missed yesterday's zoom watchtower study, i thought i'd prepare a little summary for you.. in fact, to keep things really short, i'll just highlight the outstanding verbs from the article.. paragraph 2: do not view.

  paragraph 4: think seriously about the warning.....partake unworthily.

  paragraph 5: do not feel...does not give....do not feel....would never tell.

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  Lost in the fog

  I laughed when I read that article where it said that those who are anointed do not search out other anointed ones and gather together as a select group separate from the congregation to discuss the bible together.

  (Paragraph 7) "Anointed Christians do not feel that they should spend time only with other anointed ones, as if they were members of an exclusive club. They do not search out other anointed ones, hoping to discuss their anointing with them or to form private groups for Bible study."

  But wait a minute! Isn't that exactly what the Governing Body members do!?

  And then wait for it...." We should not treat anointed ones or any others who take the lead as though they were celebrities."(See paragraph 8)

  Again has anyone broken this apparent new light to the individual Governing Body members who appear in numerous selfies taken by their fans at all the conventions they are flown in for.

  A clear case of "do as I say and not do as I do."